<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Central Air]]></title><description><![CDATA[Central Air, the show where the temperature is always just right. Join Josh Barro, Megan McArdle and Ben Dreyfuss every week for a well-centered conversation on American politics.]]></description><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rh2h!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77e75f66-030a-40af-94e1-6697430ac4c5_1280x1280.png</url><title>Central Air</title><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 20:04:36 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://www.centralairpodcast.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[Very Serious Media]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[sara@joshbarro.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[sara@joshbarro.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[sara@joshbarro.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[sara@joshbarro.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[Party of the People?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Republican pollster Patrick Ruffini joins us to check in on Trump's multiracial populist coalition during the Iran war. Plus: what 'everybody knew' about Eric Swalwell.]]></description><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/party-of-the-people</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/party-of-the-people</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 16:21:51 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/194212756/b1c6116823e8a8d435dfb9b5b30f6a0b.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear listeners,</p><p>Donald Trump didn&#8217;t just win the 2024 election, he did it by building the most racially and ethnically diverse electoral coalition of any Republican presidential candidate ever. Partly, he did that by drawing in minority voters who, prior to Trump&#8217;s rise, had voted Democratic despite holding conservative views. And partly he did it by winning over disaffected, not-especially-ideological voters of all races who believed he could deliver a stronger economy and lower inflation.</p><p>&#8220;In order to have a majority coalition in this country, the coalition has to not entirely make sense,&#8221; says our guest this week, Republican pollster Patrick Ruffini, whose 2023 book <em>Party of the People</em> lays out how and why Donald Trump, of all people, was building a more diverse Republican voter base. And indeed, as the Iran war pushes up gasoline prices and the price level more broadly fails to fall, we&#8217;re seeing a lot of strain on Trump&#8217;s coalition, with the members who joined in hopes of getting low prices especially likely to fall away.</p><p>Patrick offers us his theory of how Republicans can avoid a cataclysm in this year&#8217;s midterm &#8212; it has, in part, to do with the semiquincentennial &#8212; and we discuss whether every election is going to be a &#8220;change&#8221; election from now onward.</p><p>Also this week, Ben, Megan and I discuss what &#8220;everybody knew&#8221; about Eric Swalwell, and whether we&#8217;d be better off with more insider gossip thrown out into the open &#8212; remember, that&#8217;s what Gawker did, and people got pretty tired of Gawker by the end. And we look at the prospect of a United Airlines-American Airlines merger, which United CEO Scott Kirby <a href="https://www.axios.com/2026/04/15/trump-doj-merger-lobbying">reportedly floated to the president himself</a>.</p><p>We hope you enjoy the episode,</p><p>Josh</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[LIVE: Lakshya Jain on Trump's Collapsing Support]]></title><description><![CDATA[One in five women who voted for him disapprove of his performance, but many aren&#8217;t ready to vote for Democrats. We discuss why.]]></description><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/live-lakshya-jain-on-trumps-collapsing</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/live-lakshya-jain-on-trumps-collapsing</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 20:16:49 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-video.s3.amazonaws.com/video_upload/post/193805007/ba4d7885-3205-4dba-ad41-008524f54c66/transcoded-1775852575.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear listeners,</p><p>Thanks to all of you who tuned into my live video with <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Ben Dreyfuss&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:4181192,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@bendreyfuss&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f73b3614-9b64-41c1-b7e2-46d74defa139_48x48.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;c70b7b67-8177-425a-8fe2-e6de9f7b6054&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> and <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Lakshya Jain&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:22610836,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@lakshyajain&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B3Hj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3413529a-4768-4aee-b27e-5b9ee7ee8ada_1287x1283.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;7d9f52bf-4345-4948-86c2-6335b7c5aa8a&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>! I thought our conversation about Trump&#8217;s polling and about Democrats Senate prospects in 2026 was really interesting and informative, and I hope you enjoyed it as well.</p><p>Here&#8217;s a playback for those of you who weren&#8217;t able to join us live. We&#8217;d love your feedback in the comments, &#8230;</p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[AIPAC Throwdown]]></title><description><![CDATA[Evanston Mayor Daniel Biss joins to talk about his victory in a hotly contested congressional primary; we discuss whether Gavin Newsom's Twitter is homophobic or merely tacky.]]></description><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/aipac-throwdown</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/aipac-throwdown</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2026 17:00:01 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/193515833/d7e8e5b75c0f6a6eed1dac0a0ba0e201.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear listeners,</p><p>I first met Daniel Biss more than a decade ago when he was an Illinois state senator working to rein in that state&#8217;s unsustainable debts related to public employee pensions. Now, he&#8217;s the mayor of Evanston and very likely soon to be a member of Congress representing Chicago&#8217;s north side and northern suburbs. He just won the Democratic nomination in a hugely expensive primary election &#8212; over $10 million was spent, much of it by AIPAC-linked groups dissatisfied with his positioning as a &#8220;progressive Zionist.&#8221; We had an interesting conversation with Daniel about the changing way Democrats are relating to Israel, and the extent to which debates about the country are coming to dominate intraparty contests, even while voters tell pollsters the issue isn&#8217;t that important to them.</p><p>We also talk about Medicare for All &#8212; Daniel, like most of his opponents in the primary, says he supports it, but where&#8217;s the appetite for the sorts of broad-based tax increases that would be required to finance it? How would progressives go about convincing the public that it&#8217;s worth paying more taxes to receive more government services? Daniel sits well to my left, but he&#8217;s one of the smartest people I&#8217;ve met in elected office, and I think the conversation we had with him on these topics was really interesting.</p><p>We also check in on the Iran war &#8212; Jamie Kirchick sat in for Ben who&#8217;s off this week, and took up the thankless job of being the panelist who thinks some good could actually come from all of this.</p><p>We talk about Gavin Newsom&#8217;s emergent strategy when fighting Republicans on the internet: calling them gay. Barney Frank says this is homophobic, but <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/31/us/politics/newsom-social-media-grindr-homophobia.html">Newsom&#8217;s office tells </a><em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/31/us/politics/newsom-social-media-grindr-homophobia.html">The New York Times</a></em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/31/us/politics/newsom-social-media-grindr-homophobia.html"> something I fully believe</a>: the staffers writing the &#8220;you&#8217;re gay&#8221; tweets are themselves gay. But what might make sense as an in-joke among the gays sounds weird when put in the mouth of a straight politician, and it&#8217;s part of a broader issue with gay Democratic communicators amusing themselves by <a href="https://x.com/nygov/status/2041879449658921326?s=42">putting gay words in their straight bosses&#8217; mouths</a>. Are we really supposed to believe that <a href="https://x.com/rosadelauro/status/2039757247933190188">83-year-old House Appropriations Committee ranking member Rosa DeLauro is making jokes about Rita Ora and the Khia Asylum</a>? Let&#8217;s let straight Democrats be straight again.</p><p>We hope you enjoy the episode,</p><p>Josh</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Live with Phil Chan on saving opera]]></title><description><![CDATA[Timoth&#233;e Chalamet infamously said nobody 'gives a shit' about opera and ballet. Opera director Phil Chan has some ideas about how we can change that.]]></description><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/live-with-phil-chan-on-saving-opera</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/live-with-phil-chan-on-saving-opera</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2026 19:18:14 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-video.s3.amazonaws.com/video_upload/post/192979210/755b91ef-1418-4634-9d1e-8a514bcfd81c/transcoded-00001.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear listeners,</p><p>Thanks to all of you who tuned in for my and Megan&#8217;s Substack live chat with Phil Chan, who accompanied me to <em>La Traviata </em>at the New York Metropolitan Opera this week, and who has fascinating ideas about how to save opera &#8212; updating it to make it more relevant to modern audiences, drawing in younger attendees, and ultimately making it more financially sustainable at a time when opera organizations like the Met are under severe financial stress.</p><p>If you weren&#8217;t able to join us live for the conversation, a replay is available here for paying subscribers. And here are some relevant links:</p><ul><li><p><em>The New York Times</em> on financial difficulties at the Met, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/08/arts/met-opera-peter-gelb-finances.html">which spent down more than 20% of its endowment last year to finance ongoing operations</a>.</p></li><li><p>And the <em>Times</em> on <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/25/nyregion/why-musicals-are-struggling-to-make-money-on-broadway.html">similar financial difficulties for for-profit Broadway producers</a>, who keep losing money on musicals and are increasingly turning to less-expensive plays.</p></li><li><p>WGBH on <a href="https://www.wgbh.org/culture/2023-09-14/a-reimagination-of-madama-butterfly-isnt-radical-says-artist-phil-chan">Phil&#8217;s 2023 reimagining of </a><em><a href="https://www.wgbh.org/culture/2023-09-14/a-reimagination-of-madama-butterfly-isnt-radical-says-artist-phil-chan">Madama Butterfly</a></em><a href="https://www.wgbh.org/culture/2023-09-14/a-reimagination-of-madama-butterfly-isnt-radical-says-artist-phil-chan"> for the Boston Lyric Opera</a>.</p></li></ul><div class="install-substack-app-embed install-substack-app-embed-web" data-component-name="InstallSubstackAppToDOM"><img class="install-substack-app-embed-img" src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rh2h!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77e75f66-030a-40af-94e1-6697430ac4c5_1280x1280.png"><div class="install-substack-app-embed-text"><div class="install-substack-app-header">Get more from Josh Barro in the Substack app</div><div class="install-substack-app-text">Available for iOS and Android</div></div><a href="https://substack.com/app/app-store-redirect?utm_campaign=app-marketing&amp;utm_content=author-post-insert&amp;utm_source=centralair" target="_blank" class="install-substack-app-embed-link"><button class="install-substack-app-embed-btn button primary">Get the app</button></a></div><p>We hope you enjoyed the conversation and we look forward to being back in your ears next week.</p><p>Best,</p><p>Josh</p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[We All Live in Florida Now]]></title><description><![CDATA[Marc Caputo joins to talk about Trump's Iran decision-making and the revival of Democratic hopes in the face of the dominant Florida GOP. Plus, is Megan history's greatest monster for using AI?]]></description><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/we-all-live-in-florida-now</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/we-all-live-in-florida-now</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2026 18:59:43 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/192737461/e7323865a5c796fb646190b24af728a8.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear listeners,</p><p>The Trump administration has been very clear: they have four key objectives in the Iran war, and reopening the Strait of Hormuz is not one of them. That&#8217;s England&#8217;s job! We could end the war without doing it. Also, we won&#8217;t end the war until the strait is open. Who knows? It&#8217;s almost like they&#8217;re making the whole thing up as they go along.</p><p>Marc Caputo, White House Correspondent for Axios, joins the podcast this week to help us understand how Trump and his advisers are deciding what to do, and how they are preparing (or not) for the domestic political blowback from an extended disruption in oil markets. We also get his view from south Florida on the ongoing Republican dominance of that state &#8212; what the party did right to win solid majorities of Florida voters, and whether they face any danger from Trump&#8217;s national unpopularity and a cost of living crisis that, in Florida, takes the particular form of high housing prices and skyrocketing homeowner&#8217;s insurance costs.</p><p>Plus, Megan came in for a two-minutes hate this week for describing how she uses AI in her writing process &#8212; primarily, in the way one would use a human research assistant. We talk about the right way to use AI as a journalist, and the roots of the anti-AI fervor among journalists: one obvious reason is that many people are badly misusing AI &#8212; <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/mar/31/the-new-york-times-drops-freelance-journalist-who-used-ai-to-write-book-review">see the </a><em><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/mar/31/the-new-york-times-drops-freelance-journalist-who-used-ai-to-write-book-review">New York Times</a></em><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/mar/31/the-new-york-times-drops-freelance-journalist-who-used-ai-to-write-book-review"> book reviewer who used an AI engine to plagiarize the </a><em><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/mar/31/the-new-york-times-drops-freelance-journalist-who-used-ai-to-write-book-review">Guardian</a></em> &#8212; but another is that <em>slop</em> is a product category that long predates the rise of AI, and it used to be labor intensive in a way that it will not need to be going forward.</p><p>We hope you enjoy the show. Also, we hope you join us on Thursday at 1pm eastern for my conversation with opera director Phil Chan, who stood up to Timoth&#233;e Chalamet by taking me to see the Metropolitan Opera&#8217;s production of La Traviata this week. We&#8217;re going to talk about why people should care about the opera, and what opera institutions can do, other than complain about remarks like Chalamet&#8217;s, to convince younger generations that they should &#8220;give a shit&#8221; about the art form. To catch that live chat, go to centralairpodcast.com or join us in the Substack app.</p><p>We hope you enjoy the episode,</p><p>Josh</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Every Centrist's Favorite Socialist (feat. Tyler Austin Harper)]]></title><description><![CDATA[Tyler joins Central Air for a conversation about the Mellon Foundation, wokeness in academia, Graham Platner, existential threats to the human race, and polyamory.]]></description><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/every-centrists-favorite-socialist</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/every-centrists-favorite-socialist</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2026 17:46:46 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/192003120/93cd7efe3ffdd46bcef168f6463bd6e3.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear listeners,</p><p>This is a fun one! Tyler Austin Harper joins the show this week to talk about <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/03/mellon-foundation-humanities-research-funding/685733/">his reporting on the Mellon Foundation</a> and its role in pushing humanities academia in the direction of progressive social activism, his on-the-ground take from Maine on Graham Platner&#8217;s Senate campaign, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/26/opinion/polycrisis-doom-extinction-humanity.html">what literature can teach us about the politics of human extinction</a>, and <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/family/2026/03/polyamory-adult-braces-lindy-west/686409/">why the commentariat is souring on all these polyamory memoirs we keep getting</a>.</p><p>We hope you enjoy the show! If you have responses, please share them in the comments below.</p><p>Best,</p><p>Josh</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Gay of Hormuz]]></title><description><![CDATA[Ben has second thoughts about this whole Iran War thing; congressional candidate Alex Bores joins us to discuss the DoD-Anthropic fight; McDonald's CEO promotes the Big Arch, an exciting new product.]]></description><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/the-gay-of-hormuz</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/the-gay-of-hormuz</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2026 13:41:48 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/191308455/5025db7a37b88c8bd283e00bdfaf97cd.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear listeners,</p><p>Since you likely know <a href="https://www.joshbarro.com/p/the-kennedys-were-always-bad">how I feel about the Kennedys</a>, you can probably guess how I feel about Jack Schlossberg, the useless fuckboy grandson of John F. Kennedy who is running to be my congressman. Schlossberg doesn&#8217;t have a career or accomplishments &#8212; <a href="https://disclosures-clerk.house.gov/public_disc/financial-pdfs/2025/10073201.pdf">or labor income, for that matter</a> &#8212; but he does have a large inheritance, and people on the internet say he&#8217;s sexually attractive, though personally I can&#8217;t see it. As <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/02/rfk-jack-schlossberg-pelosi-kennedy/685941/">Jonathan Chait wrote last month</a>, you can&#8217;t even accuse him of having failed upward, because &#8220;failing requires having been entrusted with some responsibility in the first place.&#8221; This heterosexual twink is completely void of distinction, and I will be extremely annoyed if he ends up representing me in Congress.</p><p>But probably, he won&#8217;t win. It&#8217;s a big field, and one of his opponents, Assemblyman Alex Bores, joined us on Central Air this week. Unlike Schlossberg, Bores is a serious person with real accomplishments &#8212; he&#8217;s the author of New York&#8217;s controversial AI regulation law, the RAISE Act, so we asked him to join us to talk about the fight between the Department of Defense and Anthropic, and about how rules should be made about how AI gets used in the public sector. We also got to talk with him about <a href="https://www.calmdownben.com/p/free-willy-test-ai-safety">Ben&#8217;s &#8220;Free Willy&#8221; experiment</a>, how to deal with the electrical demands of data centers, and what Manhattan in particular needs from Congress.</p><p>We also have an update on Iran &#8212; Ben now thinks he may have been a little too optimistic about how this war would go, we check in again on the financial markets, and we discuss the rumors that the new ayatollah doesn&#8217;t exactly spend a lot of time in the <em>straight</em> of Hormuz, <a href="https://nypost.com/2026/03/16/us-news/trump-briefed-that-irans-new-supreme-leader-mojtaba-khamenei-is-probably-gay/">if you catch our drift</a>.</p><p>Plus, we talk about the disappointing housing bill working its way through congress with a big, bad idea from Donald Trump and Elizabeth Warren, and we look at McDonald&#8217;s CEO Chris Kempczinski and <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2026/03/15/mcdonalds-ceo-advertising-attention-economy/">his pride in his hot new product, the Big Arch</a>.</p><p>We hope you enjoy the show,</p><p>Josh</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Live with Alyssa Rosenberg on the movies]]></title><description><![CDATA[We preview the Oscars, discuss why Frankenstein was so bad, consider Timoth&#233;e Chalamet's mastery of fame in the TikTok era, and predict how the Paramount-Warner merger will affect movies.]]></description><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/live-with-alyssa-rosenberg-on-the</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/live-with-alyssa-rosenberg-on-the</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2026 20:34:38 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-video.s3.amazonaws.com/video_upload/post/190852511/333feb6a-a38a-4735-9017-a6caba7ddb57/transcoded-00001.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear listeners,</p><p>Thanks to everyone who turned into today&#8217;s live chat with <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Alyssa Rosenberg&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:533781,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@alyssarosenberg&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zUWU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff41e91dd-26be-43be-866e-87615b177293_1696x1696.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;c8483e69-4a0d-4c88-939c-08ca1aa333e9&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> (of <a href="https://movieaisle.substack.com">the excellent podcast Across the Movie Aisle</a>) and <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Ben Dreyfuss&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:4181192,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@bendreyfuss&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f73b3614-9b64-41c1-b7e2-46d74defa139_48x48.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;95a29093-6aac-43cf-9d10-ba635fbe726f&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>!</p><p>We had a great chat about 2025 in movies, and about the post-COVID business model that the film industry is still grappling toward. We heard how Alyssa learned to appreciate horror films, got Ben&#8217;s movie lot memories, and discussed my proposal that David Ellison should raze the Paramount lot and build thousands and thousands of new homes right in the core of Hollywood &#8212; apparently, this would be unpopular with some people in the industry. </p><p>If you weren&#8217;t able to join us live, a replay is here for paying subscribers. Enjoy!</p><p>Best,</p><p>Josh</p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Revolt of the Billionaires]]></title><description><![CDATA[Mike Solana of Pirate Wires joins us to discuss the billionaires planning to fight and flee in the face of California's proposed wealth tax, and also the alleged 'Gay Tech Mafia.' Plus, Chalametghazi.]]></description><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/revolt-of-the-billionaires</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/revolt-of-the-billionaires</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2026 14:46:12 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/190616792/88b386e2e72db283f5f2f439dfaba52c.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear listeners,</p><p>This week, Mike Solana of Pirate Wires joins us to talk about Silicon Valley. He&#8217;s been <a href="https://www.piratewires.com/p/exodus-the-largest-wealth-flight">talking with lots of billionaires</a> who are taking steps to exit California in anticipation of a proposed wealth tax. We discuss how credible those threats are &#8212; lots of people talk a good game about moving to Miami and make it through one summer &#8212; and what makes the wealth tax different from prior soak-the-rich tax proposals. And we discuss <a href="https://www.piratewires.com/p/wealth-tax-counterstrike">the likely opposition</a> &#8212; the proposal is far from a <em>fait accompli</em>, and it&#8217;s even opposed by a lot of Democrats, including Gavin Newsom and Katie Porter.</p><p>We also talk about <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/inside-the-gay-tech-mafia/">the alleged &#8220;Gay Tech Mafia,&#8221;</a> of which <em>Wired</em> magazine says Mike is a member. Does it exist? Does it run Silicon Valley? Is it headquartered at the Castro branch of Barry&#8217;s Bootcamp? How can we get invited to its fabulous parties? Mike reveals all.</p><p>Also this week: we look at the gyrating price of oil. Charlie Gasparino of Fox Business <a href="https://x.com/CGasparino/status/2030772356931575855">said on Sunday that commodities traders are &#8220;imbeciles&#8221;</a> who overreact to news, and indeed, oil prices did fall sharply Monday after spiking on Friday. They didn&#8217;t fall for quite the reason Charlie proposed &#8212; &#8220;within days we will 100% control the supply of oil coming out of the Straits of Hormuz,&#8221; he promised &#8212; but the markets seem to be pricing in an expectation that tensions will quickly de-escalate in one way or another. But&#8230; what if they don&#8217;t?</p><p>Finally, we look at <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/06/arts/dance/timothee-chalamet-ballet-opera.html">the outrage over Timoth&#233;e Chalamet saying &#8220;no one cares&#8221; about ballet or opera</a>, which we think is largely coming from people who do not themselves go to the ballet or the opera, and Megan tries to convince us that we should actually <em>go</em> to the opera.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.centralairpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.centralairpodcast.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>We hope you enjoy the episode,</p><p>Josh</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Central Air Live with Dave Weigel]]></title><description><![CDATA[A discussion of Tuesday's high-stakes primaries in Texas.]]></description><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/central-air-live-with-dave-weigel</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/central-air-live-with-dave-weigel</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2026 13:54:01 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-video.s3.amazonaws.com/video_upload/post/189843538/88351f76-a618-4e64-a8cf-28d55f8e30e8/transcoded-1772648110.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear listeners,</p><p>Thank you to everyone who tuned in for my live video chat with <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dave Weigel&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:549758,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@daveweigel&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9c845a1a-adeb-4b40-a164-5d4c0a4227cc_400x400.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;5d082729-bdea-403f-bed9-3784d285e8d6&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> of Semafor and <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Ben Dreyfuss&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:4181192,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@bendreyfuss&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f73b3614-9b64-41c1-b7e2-46d74defa139_48x48.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;801fead7-ba48-4cb3-a2aa-28875d1e1033&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>! We had an interesting and lively conversation about the Texas primaries &#8212; how James Talarico prevailed over Jasmine Crockett, and how Republicans ended up with a runoff, where they must endeavor to avoid nominating a candidate so unappealing he could actually lose Texas.</p><p>We also look at why Rep. Dan Crenshaw lost, and how, in Texas Republican politics, being potentially disloyal to Trump is apparently worse than sleeping with your staffer who then set herself on fire.</p><p>If you weren&#8217;t able to join us live, we have a playback here for paying subscribers. You can sign up to watch that and get all of these future lunchtime live chats that we do with interesting reporters, pollsters and commentators.</p><div class="install-substack-app-embed install-substack-app-embed-web" data-component-name="InstallSubstackAppToDOM"><img class="install-substack-app-embed-img" src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rh2h!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F77e75f66-030a-40af-94e1-6697430ac4c5_1280x1280.png"><div class="install-substack-app-embed-text"><div class="install-substack-app-header">Get more from Josh Barro in the Substack app</div><div class="install-substack-app-text">Available for iOS and Android</div></div><a href="https://substack.com/app/app-store-redirect?utm_campaign=app-marketing&amp;utm_content=author-post-insert&amp;utm_source=centralair" target="_blank" class="install-substack-app-embed-link"><button class="install-substack-app-embed-btn button primary">Get the app</button></a></div>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Real Accounts (feat. Jesse Singal)]]></title><description><![CDATA[Jesse joins us to discuss his New York Times op-ed on the turning tide on youth gender medicine, and why people go insane about him on the internet. Plus, Ben's hopes for Iran.]]></description><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/real-accounts-feat-jesse-singal</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/real-accounts-feat-jesse-singal</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2026 14:58:45 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/189870823/1d7351c7b13eb03ea0fb4759c8c76c20.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear listeners,</p><p>We&#8217;re back with another episode of Central Air and this time it is a bit of a crossover: Jesse Singal, <a href="https://www.blockedandreported.org">co-host of the Blocked and Reported podcast</a>, joins us to discuss the shift toward more cautious thinking among (some of) the U.S. medical societies about youth gender medicine. (<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/24/opinion/medical-associations-youth-gender-care.html">Jesse wrote on this for </a><em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/24/opinion/medical-associations-youth-gender-care.html">The New York Times</a></em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/24/opinion/medical-associations-youth-gender-care.html"> last week</a>.) We talk about how &#8220;The Science&#8221; got so far ahead of the science on this topic, and the forces that made a change in thinking faster to come to Europe than the U.S. We also talk about the bizarre, totalitarian media environment that has surrounded these issues, with GLAAD attempting to squish journalistic coverage of the weak evidence supporting youth gender medicine practices (initially with significant success) and about why the side question of sports has often gotten more media attention than the issue of medical treatment.</p><p>And then Ben, Megan and I discuss Ben&#8217;s surprising optimism about the situation in Iran, which I do not share.</p><p>We hope you enjoy the episode,</p><p>Josh</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[No Audience Capture at Central Air (feat. Tim Miller)]]></title><description><![CDATA[Ben, Megan and I consider your feedback, discuss the weird 'Citrini Memo' that moved the markets, and invite Tim Miller from The Bulwark to discuss Minnesota]]></description><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/no-audience-capture-at-central-air</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/no-audience-capture-at-central-air</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2026 22:18:18 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/189091817/cba2be8d2630574468323abeb9482581.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear listeners,</p><p>Wow, some of you had strong opinions about last week&#8217;s episode. Sometimes they were even strongly positive opinions! But not always. Here at Central Air, we hear your feedback, and we promise no Donald Trump impressions this week &#8212; but we can&#8217;t promise that forever, because we are fiercely independent journalists who don't take orders from anyone, not even our paying customers.</p><p>What we do have for you this week is a conversation with Tim Miller, host of The Bulwark podcast, about his recent trip to Minnesota, the apparent continuation of significant but less bombastic ICE operations in the state, and why we differ on the extent to which immigration is a political pitfall for Democrats in 2026, 2028 and 2029 &#8212; and on how much is gained by talking a lot about how terrible Donald Trump is.</p><p>We also talk about the especially lively debate on left-wing Twitter about whether it is pro-social for mentally ill homeless people to pee on the subway, and an undercurrent of discontent that&#8217;s driving that debate &#8212; New York Mayor Zohran Mamdani is increasingly breaking with the far left, including by having the NYPD resume sweeps of homeless encampments on city streets. As Tim notes, one thing that&#8217;s good about being charismatic is you can defy your core supporters and they let you get away with it.</p><p>Plus, we talk about the Supreme Court rebuke of Trump&#8217;s tariffs and we discuss <a href="https://www.citriniresearch.com/p/2028gic">the Citrini memo</a>, a document that proposed an implausible scenario of an AI-driven financial crisis &#8212; but not implausible enough to be ignored by the stock market on Monday, apparently. (<a href="https://www.joshbarro.com/p/good-things-are-good">I also wrote about this yesterday</a>).</p><p>We hope you enjoy the episode,</p><p>Josh</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The 'No Debate' Strategy on Trans Issues Has Failed]]></title><description><![CDATA[Lakshya Jain joined Josh Barro and Megan McArdle for a Central Air live chat to discuss The Argument's recent polling on trans issues]]></description><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/the-no-debate-strategy-on-trans-issues</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/the-no-debate-strategy-on-trans-issues</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2026 19:09:21 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-video.s3.amazonaws.com/video_upload/post/188640529/64c93eb2-6769-4d56-9bbb-6dd6e61cb8b6/transcoded-1771613136.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear listeners,</p><p>Thank you to the several hundred of you who tuned in for my live chat with <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Megan McArdle&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:12069514,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@mcsudermans&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e5a3657-e873-4108-b873-40dbe7732fb4_1419x1716.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;6c702c9b-6446-4a5d-83bb-ad439320ef13&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> and <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Lakshya Jain&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:22610836,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@lakshyajain&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B3Hj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3413529a-4768-4aee-b27e-5b9ee7ee8ada_1287x1283.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;aabd7caf-de7b-4f29-a025-0b78da2b7cca&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>. We had an interesting conversation about <a href="https://www.theargumentmag.com/p/the-trans-rights-backlash-is-real">his recent poll for </a><em><a href="https://www.theargumentmag.com/p/the-trans-rights-backlash-is-real">The Argument</a></em><a href="https://www.theargumentmag.com/p/the-trans-rights-backlash-is-real"> on trans issues</a>; the failure of the &#8220;no debate&#8221; strategy pursued by trans activists (see, for example, <a href="https://glaad.org/new-york-times-sign-on-letter-from-lgtbq-allied-leaders-and-organizations/">the ineffectual GLAAD letter to </a><em><a href="https://glaad.org/new-york-times-sign-on-letter-from-lgtbq-allied-leaders-and-organizations/">The New York Times</a></em>); and how Democrats and trans activists both might be expected to respond to recent rightward shifts in public opinion on topics from youth medical treatments to sports to bathrooms.</p><p>If you weren&#8217;t able to join us over lunch, we have a playback of the conversation here for paying subscribers (and thank you for your support of Central Air!)</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.centralairpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.centralairpodcast.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>We&#8217;ll be back in your ears with another full episode next week.</p><p>Best,</p><p>Josh</p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Presidentmaxxing]]></title><description><![CDATA[The legendary 'Cartoons Hate Her' joins Central Air to argue Democrats need a president who 'fucks.' And we consider the political implications of 'looksmaxxing' with a very special guest.]]></description><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/presidentmaxxing</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/presidentmaxxing</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2026 16:53:06 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/188290055/36979f8b4b2885ad8311a9392f0e2b06.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Dear listeners,</p><p>It&#8217;s a very special week here on Central Air, because Cartoons Hate Her joins us to make her argument that <a href="https://www.cartoonshateher.com/p/democrats-need-a-president-who-fucks">Democrats need a presidential candidate who &#8220;fucks.&#8221;</a></p><p>First we try to figure out what this figurative sense of &#8220;fuck&#8221; means exactly &#8212; &#8220;fucking is in your heart,&#8221; says CHH &#8212; and then we apply the analysis to the field of politics. Some calls are easy &#8212; John F. Kennedy fucked; Michael Dukakis did not fuck &#8212; but there are closer calls, like Margaret Thatcher, who may have fucked in some weird British psychosexual way, and there are candidates who fucked <em>too much</em>, like Gary Hart. We look at the elephant in the room &#8212; Gavin Newsom, who obviously fucks but obviously should not be the Democratic nominee &#8212; and we scour the rest of the field for potential fuckage. Perhaps Josh Shapiro would fuck if we got him some contact lenses and a leather jacket? We consider all possible angles.</p><p>Also this week: We have a very special surprise guest who helps us understand the bizarre phenomenon of &#8220;looksmaxxing,&#8221; recently covered in <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/13/style/clavicular-looksmaxxing-braden-peters.html">a 2,800-word </a><em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/13/style/clavicular-looksmaxxing-braden-peters.html">New York Times </a></em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/13/style/clavicular-looksmaxxing-braden-peters.html">profile of Braden Peters</a>, a.k.a. Clavicular, the famous 20-year-old moron who improves his bone structure by hitting himself in the face with a hammer. (Peters, unsurprisingly, is a Newsom supporter.) And CHH gives her take on one of my favorite questions: <em>are straight people okay?</em></p><p>We hope you enjoy the episode,</p><p>Josh</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[This Podcast Is Affordable]]></title><description><![CDATA[Natasha Sarin of The Budget Lab at Yale joins us to discuss what "affordability" is, why neither Biden nor Trump delivered it, and what policies could produce it. We also take on "white people tacos."]]></description><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/this-podcast-is-affordable</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/this-podcast-is-affordable</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2026 11:02:22 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/187540641/25c4a75614650152ef555b8f06ed25d2.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear listeners,</p><p>Everyone loves to talk about affordability these days, or more specifically, they love to complain about unaffordability. But what are they actually complaining about? At least four things, we think: inflation, interest rates, real incomes, and income distribution &#8212; or, basically, the whole economy.</p><p>We invited Natasha Sarin, a <a href="https://law.yale.edu/natasha-sarin">professor at Yale Law School</a> who co-directs <a href="https://budgetlab.yale.edu">The Budget Lab</a> there, and who previously served as an economic official at the Treasury Department under President Biden, to join us for this conversation. We discuss how the Biden team let the affordability problem sneak up on them, in the form of excessive inflation, and about what public policies would actually cause voters to feel that things were getting more affordable &#8212; and what to do about the fact that some voters appear to be waiting for prices to go back to 2019 levels, which is never going to happen.</p><p>We also talk about interest rates, and what might happen to them if President Trump gets his way on monetary policy. (In short, not what he thinks would happen.) We grade Fed Chair nominee Kevin Warsh on a curve, giving him a gentleman&#8217;s C which, we will remind you, is a passing grade. (I wrote on that theme last week, if you didn&#8217;t see it.)</p><p>And finally, as a way of addressing the allegation that the &#8220;affordability crisis&#8221; is just young people whining about DoorDash prices, we look into the alleged phenomenon of &#8220;white people tacos,&#8221; which <a href="https://x.com/briebriejoy/status/2019200627641884919">Briahna Joy Gray says contain black olives</a>. Ben and Megan say this is made up, but I say we all know what Gray is talking about here &#8212; haven&#8217;t you seen canned black olives in a taco <em>salad</em>? &#8212; and the terminology doesn&#8217;t mean that all white people make bad tacos.</p><p>We hope you enjoy the episode,</p><p>Josh</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[We're All in the Epstein Files (feat. Ross Douthat)]]></title><description><![CDATA[Dear readers,]]></description><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/were-all-in-the-epstein-files-feat</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/were-all-in-the-epstein-files-feat</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2026 15:18:11 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/186751630/df623bf4a4797afc7e3b02b098553e8f.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear readers,</p><p>We&#8217;re really excited to have Ross Douthat, columnist for <em>The New York Times</em> and host of the <em>Times</em>&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/interesting-times">Interesting Times</a>&#8221; podcast, join us for this week&#8217;s show. On this week&#8217;s agenda:</p><ul><li><p>Giving the Epstein Files the Washington Read</p></li><li><p>A sincere effort to learn something <em>useful</em> from this Epstein experience</p></li><li><p>Men behaving badly, forever</p></li><li><p>How Ross got his job as the official explainer of Trumpism to liberal America</p><ul><li><p>Is he qualified?</p></li></ul></li><li><p>Kanye for New Haven</p></li><li><p>Which presidents were worse than Joe Biden? And be specific</p><ul><li><p>Mental note to do a segment on a future show about the underrated virtues of Jimmy Carter</p></li></ul></li><li><p>Ross tells us to <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/31/opinion/artificial-intelligence-new-world.html">pay more attention to AI</a></p><ul><li><p>This requires talking about <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/03/tech/moltbook-explainer-scli-intl">Moltbook</a>, sorry</p></li></ul></li><li><p>How to think about efforts to build the AI god if you already believe in God</p></li><li><p>Peter Thiel and his &#8220;over-indexing&#8221; on his <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/11/podcasts/interesting-times-a-mind-bending-conversation-with-peter-thiel.html">Greta Thunberg theory of the Antichrist</a></p><ul><li><p>Aren&#8217;t religious conservatives getting weirdly comfortable with a heresy here?</p><ul><li><p>No Ben, not sodomy</p></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul><p>We hope you enjoy the episode! We&#8217;d love to hear any of your thoughts or responses in the comments below.</p><p>Thanks for listening,</p><p>Josh</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The von Trapps Were Not Jewish]]></title><description><![CDATA[Jerusalem Demsas from The Argument joins to make the case for immigration, and for liberalism; vaccine development faces trouble in the US and Europe; Josh and Ben misunderstood The Sound of Music.]]></description><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/the-von-trapps-were-not-jewish</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/the-von-trapps-were-not-jewish</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2026 15:03:16 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/186020304/c400a46ab9a2b2631462c1cc9a87971f.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear listeners,</p><p>We&#8217;re back with another episode of Central Air and this week we&#8217;re joined by Jerusalem Demsas, Editor-in-Chief of avowedly liberal publication The Argument. Jerusalem makes the case for immigration advocates to ride the thermostatic shift toward support for immigration without avoiding the political traps that befell Democrats under Joe Biden.</p><p>We also talk about what sort of bargain Democrats should try to drive about funding the Department of Homeland Security in the wake of the abuses they&#8217;ve perpetrated in Minneapolis, and we look at one aspect of The Argument&#8217;s project: getting liberals to stop acting like they&#8217;re &#8220;temporarily-embarrassed communists&#8221; and take pride in their own coherent worldview.</p><p>Meanwhile, we consider Moderna&#8217;s announcement that the US policy environment has turned too anti-vaccine to support expensive research into certain mRNA applications for fighting infectious disease. And Ben makes a case for one of the ugliest vegetables around &#8212; <a href="https://www.marthastewart.com/celeriac-celery-root-8597968">celeriac, also known as celery root</a>. When shopping for celery root, &#8220;the dirtier, the better&#8221; &#8212; that&#8217;s what Emilie Berner, chef-instructor of plant-based culinary arts at the Institute for Culinary Education, told Martha Stewart &#8212; and Ben agrees.</p><p>We hope you enjoy the episode,</p><p>Josh</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Live on Substack with Josh, Megan & Ben]]></title><description><![CDATA[Greenland, gold prices, the "Cocaine Lawyer," people who hit themselves in the face with hammers for aesthetic reasons, the plight of the tall, Ben's secret natural hair color, and much more.]]></description><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/live-on-substack-with-josh-megan</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/live-on-substack-with-josh-megan</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2026 19:35:38 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-video.s3.amazonaws.com/video_upload/post/185559554/646d8bd8-1641-45dd-85ee-3165ffbf8b80/transcoded-00001.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear listeners,</p><p>Thank you <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Peter Suderman&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:2456205,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@cocktailswithsuderman&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2654e669-b7da-4a1e-a4ab-15ae03d848b4_1290x1288.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;32a93cf9-b5b3-42f9-8646-1dd83307c578&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>, <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Steven F. Hayward&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:3785272,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@stevehayward&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/79618f04-4a69-4d8f-85a7-0fae63219f63_144x144.png&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;3b798ea2-3b6a-4c79-953d-4ad4bcffd16c&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>, <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Patrick Gourley&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:45719584,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@econsoapbox&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a593c918-a30d-4cb3-9d19-94643225d503_1193x849.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;4976c142-b42d-4898-a4de-424ee9afe6ea&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>, <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Colin Cannell&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:7586021,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@colincannell&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2ae34074-8994-4d52-9c0e-c50d276e10c9_144x144.png&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;2176dc2a-7c92-4049-b387-55ab53d77481&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>, <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dennis Sanders&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:2185868,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@dennissanders&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wjvn!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a416206-9c5b-4222-8610-feb825cac46b_400x400.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;a598d0f4-fc79-47b8-a538-7dd56713a8d0&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>, and many others for tuning into my live video with <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Ben Dreyfuss&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:4181192,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@bendreyfuss&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f73b3614-9b64-41c1-b7e2-46d74defa139_48x48.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;ef084a43-4fa3-48fb-8a68-039d59455d91&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> and <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Megan McArdle&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:12069514,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://substack.com/@mcsudermans&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e5a3657-e873-4108-b873-40dbe7732fb4_1419x1716.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;68dd8c90-82a2-436c-b12f-e6366fa868f8&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>!</p><p>If you weren&#8217;t able to join us live, we have a playback here for paying subscribers. You can hear our conversation on topics such as:</p><ul><li><p>How can the market make Trump chicken out if it already knows Trump will chicken out and therefore ought to price in the expectation that he will chicken out?</p></li><li><p>Gold prices (what&#8217;s the deal with them?)</p></li><li><p>The plight of the tall, who, like the victims of the Khmer Rouge, are constantly faced with weirdly-shaped jackets and too-low countertops</p></li><li><p>Ben&#8217;s louche appearance</p></li><li><p>Large, valuable rocks</p></li><li><p>Subway ads for the Joint Strike Fighter</p></li><li><p>The Canadian Olympic snowboarder drug kingpin who got arrested in Mexico today</p></li><li><p>His lawyer, who used to have the username &#8220;cocainelawyer&#8221; on Instagram, and who (surprise!) got indicted too</p></li><li><p>Who is &#8220;Clavicular,&#8221; the teenage far-right &#8220;looksmaxxing&#8221; influencer who started steroids in his early teen years and <a href="https://x.com/brad_polumbo/status/2001123543384551847">says the secret to being energetic is meth</a> and maybe hits himself in the face with a hammer and thinks Gavin Newsom would be a better president than JD Vance because he&#8217;s more attractive? And most importantly, where are his parents?</p></li></ul><p>We hope you enjoyed the live chat and we look forward to seeing you again for our regular show next Wednesday!</p><p>Best,</p><p>Josh</p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Snow NIMBYs]]></title><description><![CDATA[We discuss the preposterous demands for Greenland, look at the Shapiro-Harris feud, try to define a woman (harder than you'd think!), and consider the already-backfiring California billionaire tax.]]></description><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/snow-nimbys</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/snow-nimbys</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2026 15:53:32 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/185207653/f93d0388323d0588071241f0de884a36.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear listeners:</p><p>Central Air is back and we have good news: <strong>Ben, Megan and I will be doing another Substack live video chat this Friday at 12:30 pm Eastern / 9:30 am Pacific. </strong>We&#8217;ll talk about the World Economic Forum &#8212; hey, at least the Davos confab has never been more relevant! &#8212; and Greenland and tariffs and whatever other nonsense you want to ask us about.</p><p>You&#8217;ll see a link to join the conversation if you come to our web page (link below) or open the Substack app on Friday. And if you can&#8217;t join us live on Friday, a replay of the conversation will be available for paying subscribers, again at either of those locations.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.centralairpodcast.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Central Air is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>On this week&#8217;s show, we discuss our exasperation at Greenlandpolitik and consider an endgame where Trump simply declares that he has Greenland without actually doing anything besides coloring in the map. We discuss <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/18/us/politics/josh-shapiro-memoir-kamala-harris.html">Kamala Harris&#8217;s staff&#8217;s insinuation that Josh Shapiro was too poor to be vice president and also clothe his wife</a>. We discuss the oral arguments in the trans sports cases before the Supreme Court and try our hands at the &#8220;what is a woman?&#8221; question that keeps tripping up Democrats. (Some of the simple answers become hard if you don&#8217;t want to say &#8220;no&#8221; to &#8220;Is Caitlin Jenner a woman?&#8221;) And we look at the already-ongoing capital flight from California in response to the proposed billionaire wealth tax and discuss how one can even stop the capital flight in a state where anyone can propose the ballot measure over and over again.</p><p>We hope you enjoy the episode! Have responses? Complaints? Adulation? Please leave these in the comments below.</p><p>Best,</p><p>Josh</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Jay Powell's Emergency Podcast]]></title><description><![CDATA[We discuss the future of the #resistance at the Federal Reserve, the outrageous conduct of ICE, Jasmine Crockett vs. Bowen Yang, and the problems facing straight people.]]></description><link>https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/jay-powells-emergency-podcast</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.centralairpodcast.com/p/jay-powells-emergency-podcast</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Barro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2026 15:35:34 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/184474965/ca9cc9f86a2b8f54d31d283b03ede858.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear listeners,</p><p>We&#8217;re back with another episode of Central Air! This week, we look at the bombshell at the Federal Reserve: the bank was served with subpoenas related to a criminal investigation into Jerome Powell&#8217;s congressional testimony about cost overruns for the Fed&#8217;s headquarters renovations, and Powell responded with a direct-to-camera video pledging to resist this use of a pretextual criminal investigation to pressure him and the bank to lower interest rates. We consider why the financial markets have had a muted reaction, and we play out how the Fed might work if Powell&#8217;s term as chair expires and senators refuse to confirm any new board members, as Sen. Thom Tillis has already threatened.</p><p>We also discuss the Minnesota ICE shooting. Then, <a href="https://thelongrun.news">Steve Morris of The Long Run</a> joins us to discuss the <a href="https://www.wsj.com/opinion/free-expression/never-apologize-to-the-mob-5d8c3716?gaa_at=eafs&amp;gaa_n=AWEtsqeWnHrTEtzbrjHQkeBpfLLzH8Vf9lcZRSChg9kCxQYVnYaKtZSJv1Y-lDJL7PE%3D&amp;gaa_ts=69670192&amp;gaa_sig=AMolNHnAx77KXsNhLf32A4CvOm0M6XGr4u7PHacrZYtVfVL0JZCfpULQj-cmCA9A-E-DjdCbB2qlDpHlqILJVg%3D%3D">groveling apology</a> that gay liberal comedians Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers had to offer for showing insufficient respect to our lord and savior Jasmine Crockett. We also look at the problems facing straight people &#8212; who these days seem to talk a lot about <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/21/magazine/men-heterofatalism-dating-relationships.html">how awful the opposite sex</a> is while having very little sex with the opposite sex. This is sad! Maybe they can learn something from the gays about how to self-actualize.</p><p>We hope you enjoy the episode. Let us know what you think in the comments.</p><p>Josh</p>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>