Tyler joins Central Air for a conversation about the Mellon Foundation, wokeness in academia, Graham Platner, existential threats to the human race, and polyamory.
Great episode. I’ve been listening to Tyler on Time to Say Goodbye for a while and it is cool that he is getting better and better on the mic. Great conversation!
This is probably my all-time favorite episode. So many interesting topics!
The segment about Graham Platner really caught my attention. I don't live in Maine so in some ways the topic is purely academic, but in some ways it applies to politics everywhere. If we want "regular people" to run for office--whatever that means--we're going to get candidates who have said and done embarrassing things. There's just no way around that.
I do find it odd, though, that Plain-folk Platner has adopted a dodge on gender issues. Sure, Mills isn't great there, either, but she's not campaigning as a salt-of-the-earther. To my way of thinking, regular people respect an opinion that is plainly stated and plainly defended, not waved away as a culture-war distraction.
P.S. Ben is right that we should not have a relativist approach to weird childhood foods. Take a virtue-ethics approach and acknowledge that some of that stuff is just shameful.
On climate, does nobody on the panel realize that in the last 4 years China has built more renewable energy capacity that the ENTIRE US electrical output? Megan please listen carefully... America is the problem. America has always been the problem. I thought centrists liked to view America as a shining city on a hill? Why do we care what the world does? Why don't we lead?
And yet China still emits 3 times the carbon of the US and continues to build the dirty coal power plants. Can the US do better? Yes. Is the US the problem? Absolutely not - the US could go to zero emissions tomorrow and the problem would be the exact same.
Arguments like this is why the left is losing on climate, especially when paired with irrational opposition to nuclear power
You're a Luddite. Why should we avoid building more renewables? What is the trajectory of the US vs China? We do the same shit as them. Trump is forcing an unwanted coal plant in Michigan to stay open driving up my rates. We are restarting a turd of a nuke plant rather than building something new and efficient. America is losing, nay has lost, it's edge in what matters. AI is our last gas - and that technology makes ZERO profits and is FULLY reliant on China (Taiwan) and the Netherlands (lithography). Patriots are fucking lame. I know for certain that you don't have a job where you manufacture complex goods in the US. I do and I have my entire 20 year career. I'm familiar with idiots like you who thump their chests while the world passes us by.
Ha. Luddite. That's cute. I'm sure you do all kinds of just *super* complex manufacturing.
Are you also going to tell me you're a Navy Seal with over 60 confirmed kills?
Listen, princess, you can cast all the insults you like, but it won't make your arguments any more valid. You didn't refute a single one of my arguments, because you can't.
Except I did refute your point. The US is making actively harmful decisions while China doubles down on improvements. Blaming the world for our failings earns you the ad hominem.
On the topic of aligned interest appearing nefarious... Anti-depressants are the blue pill that allows our evolutionary response to effectuate change in the face of atrocities and depression to be suppressed. Capital makes big money prescribing and treating. If there was a red pill that made blissfully ignorant people viscerally aware of atrocities, there would be a massive awokening (lol) that would turn the system on its head. Capital would, of course, be very much against this. This isn't conspiracy, it's alignment. My not-a-centrist take is that we should work to reign in conspiracy as well as alignment when we agree that "powerful" interests and giving "bad" outcomes. Agreement, however, is difficult though when everyone around you takes a mouth full of blue pills daily.
It's weird to talk about Platner as a closet Nazi, when Collins is an actual Nazi. The thing that bugs me about all this Nazi talk is that AIPAC and the warmongers will "prove" Platner is a Nazi when he doesn't support Israel's expansionist religious war. Maybe we can change the frame and define Nazi's as people who support actual current genocide (like Collins).
Tyler has been my favorite guest so far. No shade to other guests, ya'll just weren't as good.
Great episode. I’ve been listening to Tyler on Time to Say Goodbye for a while and it is cool that he is getting better and better on the mic. Great conversation!
This is probably my all-time favorite episode. So many interesting topics!
The segment about Graham Platner really caught my attention. I don't live in Maine so in some ways the topic is purely academic, but in some ways it applies to politics everywhere. If we want "regular people" to run for office--whatever that means--we're going to get candidates who have said and done embarrassing things. There's just no way around that.
I do find it odd, though, that Plain-folk Platner has adopted a dodge on gender issues. Sure, Mills isn't great there, either, but she's not campaigning as a salt-of-the-earther. To my way of thinking, regular people respect an opinion that is plainly stated and plainly defended, not waved away as a culture-war distraction.
P.S. Ben is right that we should not have a relativist approach to weird childhood foods. Take a virtue-ethics approach and acknowledge that some of that stuff is just shameful.
everyone says English food is due to rationing and then you look at pre-rationing English cuisine and it is jellied Thames eel.
On climate, does nobody on the panel realize that in the last 4 years China has built more renewable energy capacity that the ENTIRE US electrical output? Megan please listen carefully... America is the problem. America has always been the problem. I thought centrists liked to view America as a shining city on a hill? Why do we care what the world does? Why don't we lead?
And yet China still emits 3 times the carbon of the US and continues to build the dirty coal power plants. Can the US do better? Yes. Is the US the problem? Absolutely not - the US could go to zero emissions tomorrow and the problem would be the exact same.
Arguments like this is why the left is losing on climate, especially when paired with irrational opposition to nuclear power
You're a Luddite. Why should we avoid building more renewables? What is the trajectory of the US vs China? We do the same shit as them. Trump is forcing an unwanted coal plant in Michigan to stay open driving up my rates. We are restarting a turd of a nuke plant rather than building something new and efficient. America is losing, nay has lost, it's edge in what matters. AI is our last gas - and that technology makes ZERO profits and is FULLY reliant on China (Taiwan) and the Netherlands (lithography). Patriots are fucking lame. I know for certain that you don't have a job where you manufacture complex goods in the US. I do and I have my entire 20 year career. I'm familiar with idiots like you who thump their chests while the world passes us by.
Ha. Luddite. That's cute. I'm sure you do all kinds of just *super* complex manufacturing.
Are you also going to tell me you're a Navy Seal with over 60 confirmed kills?
Listen, princess, you can cast all the insults you like, but it won't make your arguments any more valid. You didn't refute a single one of my arguments, because you can't.
Except I did refute your point. The US is making actively harmful decisions while China doubles down on improvements. Blaming the world for our failings earns you the ad hominem.
On the topic of aligned interest appearing nefarious... Anti-depressants are the blue pill that allows our evolutionary response to effectuate change in the face of atrocities and depression to be suppressed. Capital makes big money prescribing and treating. If there was a red pill that made blissfully ignorant people viscerally aware of atrocities, there would be a massive awokening (lol) that would turn the system on its head. Capital would, of course, be very much against this. This isn't conspiracy, it's alignment. My not-a-centrist take is that we should work to reign in conspiracy as well as alignment when we agree that "powerful" interests and giving "bad" outcomes. Agreement, however, is difficult though when everyone around you takes a mouth full of blue pills daily.
It's weird to talk about Platner as a closet Nazi, when Collins is an actual Nazi. The thing that bugs me about all this Nazi talk is that AIPAC and the warmongers will "prove" Platner is a Nazi when he doesn't support Israel's expansionist religious war. Maybe we can change the frame and define Nazi's as people who support actual current genocide (like Collins).
Remind me who has the literal Nazi tattoo. Hint: it's not Collins
Remind me, who wants to help Israel level Gaza?
Hamas
So what word should we start using for what Nazi used to mean? Or are we not to distinguish between Collins and Hitler?
IDK, seems like you're the one who wants to call Platner a Nazi (he's obviously not), maybe you can propose the word?
I don't think Collins is a Nazi, therefore I think Platner is a Nazi. Thanks for opening my eyes.
I suppose we could call the people who used to be called Nazis "proto-Israelis". That way no one forgets the chronology.